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Our ever demanding request to move out from the city and expand leaves the ability of public transportation stretched like a rubber band. We are simply too spread out for transportation like there is in Europe. I find this sad. Yet why not get a hybrid? You say horsepower? Well in America, the speeds are crazy slow, so whatís the need? There really isnít. I love driving around my uncles Prius.
The hybrid route is kind of weak. True, the most efficient cars on the roat atm are hybrids, but that's not really because they're hybrids. That's because the press went nuts over hybrids and they market well on having a high efficiency. Look at the paperwork on your uncle's Prius sometime; there's a part where it explains that changing the tires to normal tires will decrease the efficiency by 4 mpg. It's streamlined, made out of very light materials, blah blah blah.

For isntance look at the new Honda Accord Hybrid they have out. It gets 30/37. But the regular Honda Accord gets 24/34. Making it a hybrid only gets about 6/3 in this case.

Long story short, what I'm saying is that there are better ways for one to make a car fuel efficient than what the car companies are doing now. Buying hybrids is not the answer to America's fuel problems.
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If you had only decent people in a society, it would be no problem.

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Old 03-13-2005, 03:43 AM PopeKevinI is offline  
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Meh. It was probably one of the eastern European immigrants that permeated my first apartment complex in Dallas.
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Old 03-13-2005, 03:44 AM PopeKevinI is offline  
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You are generalizing a bit too heavily there... (not exactly any communist governments left, and even those who have a communistic party in the ruling government aren't the traditional commie-one-party-states, but this is a matter of semantics and a bit off-topic, so let's go onwards instead with the core matter)



The fucking ridiculous taxes on petroleum are because of the tax-heavy policy of more left-wingish governments though, so the spirit fo your statement is essentially correct.

Example of petroleum price here in Sweden currently at a large petroleum station chain:
$6.05 USD/gallon

Of that is:
$1.65 USD: Energy Tax (fixed tax per liter)
$1.00 USD: CO2 Tax (fixed tax per liter)
$1.21 USD: Value Added Tax (25% tax on the base price + the other taxes []...)
So the tax of one gallon of petroleum is $3.86 USD, or 64% of the total price. Without taxes this particular petroleum would cost $2.19 USD/gallon


I really hope that there is a switch in government here at the general elections next year... I don't really think there will be any huge tax drops though as the population is quite indoctrinated into the social democratic agenda of "high taxes = good" and thus consider any tax lowering ideas as equal to lowering the quality of services.
Hnngh. The totally insane level of taxation is killing us slowly as the public services just keep eating more and more money and thus it needs tax raises to keep up with the expenses... And the overall population is getting just older and older so the entire system is risking of collapsing in a few decades due to the simple fact that there aren't enough people in the work force to be able to maintain the pensions and healthcare for the massive bulk of retired persons.

You said what I said in the long version

I didn't want to write that much and everyone (except a few) knew what I was talking about. I hate it when Europeans compare their prices to ours, it's only inflated because of your own governments, not the market.

Socialist government is lazy government. Instead of working to find money they just take as much as they can get and throw it around. The US is having the same problem and I wish someone would do something but all the senators and reps love their cushy jobs.
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It's around $8.00 a gallon here in the UK, so stop complaining. lol

You've got it good, what we Brits wouldn't give to have fuel so cheap.
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carpooling...biking...run...walk...jog.....skytrain/subway...bus....taxi....you have a lot of options.....and all of them are cheaper and more efficient in the longrun....fine....you live someplace where it's impossible to do this? bad weather? then don't bitch about gas prices and expect people to agree with you....just accept that gas costs this much at this time and deal with it
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carpooling...biking...run...walk...jog.....skytrain/subway...bus....taxi....you have a lot of options.....and all of them are cheaper and more efficient in the longrun....fine....you live someplace where it's impossible to do this? bad weather? then don't bitch about gas prices and expect people to agree with you....just accept that gas costs this much at this time and deal with it

I'm trying to figure out how taxis fit in with the rest of that
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I'm trying to figure out how taxis fit in with the rest of that

No joke, taxis are freaking expensive
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No joke, taxis are freaking expensive

Let's see...pay for the car and gas, or pay for the car, gas, driver's income, plus company's profit.

FYI: There is no public transportation where I am. So telling me to use it is pointless
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MY Jetta TDI gets 45 MILES PER A GALLON LOL AND IT'S QUICK & RESPONSIVE AND WEIGHS 3,000LBS LOL
ps - I drive it like I stole it
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MY Jetta TDI gets 45 MILES PER A GALLON LOL AND IT'S QUICK & RESPONSIVE AND WEIGHS 3,000LBS LOL
ps - I drive it like I stole it
my hydrogen Mustang will own you in 7 years
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MY Jetta TDI gets 45 MILES PER A GALLON LOL AND IT'S QUICK & RESPONSIVE AND WEIGHS 3,000LBS LOL
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Yeah, how are you going to handle pressurized Hydrogen?

You're an idiot. A very big idiot.

2nd:

Jetta via Diesel are great autos. Super MPG, great power.

I love my 15 year old honda. 30 MPG in the city. Jesus it's 15 years old. I like a small compact light car. I don't like a super heavy breathing power machine. Why? I drive like I stole it as well. With a 4 cyl Honda I blow the shit out of most drivers, and if I had any more power, I would get arressted for going 50 over.

My point is, in the states, you don't need a huge and powerful auto. You don't need an SUV most of the time, but the culture is conducive to buying large inefficent autos. The problem is deeper than fuel costs, it deals with cultural issues that need to be addressed.

People need to stop believeing that they need an SUV and drive a sport compact. American society needs to do a lot of things to improve, but I'm so blown away by the casualy educated masses that I'm not sure where to begin.

Anything we do to transportation is just a short term fix. We need to change the culture's method of thought, because most people are ignorant, or just don't give a shit. Mostly the latter, they don't plan to be stupid, they just don't care. Plain and simple.
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