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Hydrogen powered cars came out ~10 years ago

fuel cell > *
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the world needs better public transportation, if the public system was good, we wouldn't need cars

Yeah, we need less freedom and more crime.

If you had only decent White people in a society, it would be no problem.
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fuel cell > *
Yeah, how are you going to handle pressurized Hydrogen?
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The US needs better public transportation.

Which does nothing if you live and work 20-30+ miles apart. The only public transportation I've ever seen that was actually utilized was at college. The buses there always have people on them, and in the mornings they're completely packed. But you can walk anywhere in town in an hour or so. Around here I normally see only a handful of people on any bus. Public transportation just doesn't work in a place as spread out as America, at least not outside cities.
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So hereís the thing:

Iíll use my parents as an exampleÖ

They spend all this money working so hard at their middle class life, buy big trucks and SUVs, then bitch when they have to spend 60 bucks each time they go to fill up (at least once a week).

This blows me away. Right now I have a 1990 Honda Accord with 294,000 mi on it. My father offered to buy me a 1998 Pontiac Grand Am (V6). I turned him down. One of the reasons was I hate the Tupperware interior of American automobiles, but thatís just my like in autos. The main reason was, however, fuel. With my old Honda I get 28 mpg city and 32 highway. Thatís great for such an old car. In fact, thatís great for most new cars.

I donít understand the American fixation for SUVs. This just goes to show I donít belong here. For the most part, I truly do not understand my own culture. I donít like how so many people insist on having such large, ugly, and poorly built homes. I donít like the mass produced homes that dot the American landscape. I like my old home. It was built in 1945, and is awesome. It has a mild amount of character, history, and above all, is very nice.

I'm with you on aesthetics. "Tupperware" interior - brilliant! l love it!

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Our ever demanding request to move out from the city and expand leaves the ability of public transportation stretched like a rubber band. We are simply too spread out for transportation like there is in Europe. I find this sad.
I find it sad, too. Back when Whites were allowed to build advanced societies, this was not a problem. But the legislated morallity of integration destroyed that.
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2.39 here, i gave up complaining. although i would like to get a more fuel efficient car soon, 10mpg from my truck just doesnt cut it

the funny thing is my dads truck which is 28 years newer then mine gets the same mpg
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Stop Fucking Complaining

In Europe its $5.00 a Gallon, similar to the rest of the world.

Its still less expensive then BOTTLED WATER.

Get a more efficient car

Or WALK for a change

sorry if this was already said but

many people do not care how much it costs in europe

many people don't buy bottled water because it is too expensive

many people cannot afford a more efficient car

many people live too far from their place of employment for walking to be a realistic option
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thats cause of their socialistic (ie communist) governments

You are generalizing a bit too heavily there... (not exactly any communist governments left, and even those who have a communistic party in the ruling government aren't the traditional commie-one-party-states, but this is a matter of semantics and a bit off-topic, so let's go onwards instead with the core matter)



The fucking ridiculous taxes on petroleum are because of the tax-heavy policy of more left-wingish governments though, so the spirit fo your statement is essentially correct.

Example of petroleum price here in Sweden currently at a large petroleum station chain:
$6.05 USD/gallon

Of that is:
$1.65 USD: Energy Tax (fixed tax per liter)
$1.00 USD: CO2 Tax (fixed tax per liter)
$1.21 USD: Value Added Tax (25% tax on the base price + the other taxes []...)
So the tax of one gallon of petroleum is $3.86 USD, or 64% of the total price. Without taxes this particular petroleum would cost $2.19 USD/gallon


I really hope that there is a switch in government here at the general elections next year... I don't really think there will be any huge tax drops though as the population is quite indoctrinated into the social democratic agenda of "high taxes = good" and thus consider any tax lowering ideas as equal to lowering the quality of services.
Hnngh. The totally insane level of taxation is killing us slowly as the public services just keep eating more and more money and thus it needs tax raises to keep up with the expenses... And the overall population is getting just older and older so the entire system is risking of collapsing in a few decades due to the simple fact that there aren't enough people in the work force to be able to maintain the pensions and healthcare for the massive bulk of retired persons.
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Stop Fucking Complaining

In Europe its $5.00 a Gallon, similar to the rest of the world.

Its still less expensive then BOTTLED WATER.

Get a more efficient car

Or WALK for a change
Again, I agree with you. Many americans are lazy ass bitches. We don't have anything close, everything far. We have to drive to get somewhere from our house. In europe, you ride a bike or walk, same with asia and middle east. Here in the US we have nothing like that...no close community. We don't have town centrals, and dont have "centrum" of the city like in europe. We have everything far. Somehow people in NYC can live without a car, maybe it should be tried elsewhere.
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Again, I agree with you. Many americans are lazy ass bitches. We don't have anything close, everything far. We have to drive to get somewhere from our house. In europe, you ride a bike or walk, same with asia and middle east. Here in the US we have nothing like that...no close community. We don't have town centrals, and dont have "centrum" of the city like in europe. We have everything far. Somehow people in NYC can live without a car, maybe it should be tried elsewhere.

many americans are lazy too, but so are lots of europeans. how many people told me in amsterdam to take the tram instead of walking for 20 mintes? well the answer is EVERYONE.

i agree that americans drive needlessly

europeans by large have better public transportation: they can take trains longer distances to work (like people in NYC, that is how they survive).

the thing is that a lot of people who don't have access to a solid public transportation system are forced to drive to work if it is far away. maybe they should move closer to work, yeah that would be great, but some people want to raise their families in certain areas and the best job they can get is an hour away. what are they going to do?
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People in rural parts of Sweden are very dependant on the use of a car due to the very low population density. So the car is used a lot, and that gets very expensive there thanks to the fucking ridiculous taxation of petroleum.

In the mid-larger cities there one can get along very well without a car, although there has been a development in the past two+ decades of huge "supermarkets" on the edges of urban development or in not-easily-accessible industrial areas. One practically needs a car to go to those places, as the distance to walk with the purchased merchandise to the nearest bus stop is generally too inconvenient.
But true, there are typically still pretty much everything within walking distance - or at least walking distance to/from a bus stop - in cities and their suburbs.

In smaller cities the public transportation isn't that well covering so in those it can be a bit difficult coping smoothly without a car.
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i agree that americans drive needlessly

I routinely park in ONE place in a strip mall and go to several stores. I can't imagine someone doing otherwise, but they do. I've seen apartment managers who live in the complex drive to the office and then drive to their apartment (tardo women, of course, who are not really managers (who would BENEFIT by actually SEEING what is going on in the complex by walking) but more like shake-your-tits flunky real estate agents.
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I routinely park in ONE place in a strip mall and go to several stores. I can't imagine someone doing otherwise, but they do. I've seen apartment managers who live in the complex drive to the office and then drive to their apartment (tardo women, of course, who are not really managers (who would BENEFIT by actually SEEING what is going on in the complex by walking) but more like shake-your-tits flunky real estate agents.


i also love the people who cruise parking lots for ages with lots of empty spots further away, looking for a place to park that is close to the en of the store, and then who do the same thing when they have to visit the store on the other side of the parking lot.
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I routinely park in ONE place in a strip mall and go to several stores. I can't imagine someone doing otherwise, but they do. I've seen apartment managers who live in the complex drive to the office and then drive to their apartment (tardo women, of course, who are not really managers (who would BENEFIT by actually SEEING what is going on in the complex by walking) but more like shake-your-tits flunky real estate agents.
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